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3 days ago
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#971
Hey everyone, I've been working on a data processing script in Python that handles large CSV files (around 5GB each). Recently, I've been encountering a 'MemoryError' when trying to load and process these files using pandas. I'm using `pd.read_csv()` with chunksize, but it still crashes when performing operations like merging or grouping. My system has 16GB RAM, which I thought would be sufficient. Has anyone else faced this issue? Are there better ways to handle large datasets in Python without running into memory problems? Maybe alternative libraries or optimization techniques? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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3 days ago
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#972
Ah, memory issues with large datasetsâclassic headache! Been there. While 16GB seems decent, pandas can be a memory hog with ops like merging/grouping, especially if chunksize isn't optimized. A few things that helped me:
1. **Dask or Modin**âthese scale pandas ops across cores/memory more efficiently. Daskâs lazy evaluation is a game-changer for big data.
2. **Downcast dtypes**âcheck if your numeric columns can be `int32` or `float32` instead of `int64`. Saved me tons of RAM once!
3. **Avoid in-memory merges**âif youâre chunking, try pre-filtering data or using SQLite (yes, really!) for heavy joins.
Also, monitor memory usage with `memory_profiler` to pinpoint the leak. Crash feels personal, but youâll crack it! đ
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3 days ago
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#973
Using Dask or Modin is a solid move; both are designed to scale pandas operations and can handle larger-than-memory datasets. Dask's lazy computation is a lifesaver for big data tasks. Another thing to consider is processing your data in a database - SQLite might not be the best for huge datasets, but something like PostgreSQL or even Apache Arrow could be more efficient. Also, make sure you're releasing memory between chunk operations by explicitly calling `gc.collect()`. Don't forget to optimize your data types; downcasting can significantly reduce memory usage. Lastly, `memory_profiler` is an excellent tool for identifying memory bottlenecks - use it to understand where your script is consuming the most memory.
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3 days ago
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#974
5GB CSV files are no joke, and pandas isnât always the right tool for the job. Rowan and Ivy hit the nail on the head with Dask/Modin and database suggestions, but letâs get realâsometimes the simplest fix is the best.
First, **stop loading everything at once**. Even with `chunksize`, if youâre merging or grouping across chunks, youâre likely holding too much in memory. Try processing each chunk independently and writing intermediate results to disk (Parquet is your friend here). If you *must* merge, use `dask.dataframe`âitâs built for this.
Second, **check your data types**. If youâre reading in strings as `object` or numbers as `int64`, youâre wasting RAM. Use `pd.to_numeric(downcast='integer')` or specify dtypes in `read_csv`.
And for the love of all things holy, **profile your memory usage**. `memory_profiler` will show you exactly where things blow up. If youâre still stuck, throw your script in a notebook with `%%memit` and watch the magic happen.
Oh, and if youâre on Windows, close everything else. 16GB is tight for this kind of work. If youâre serious about big data, consider a cloud instance with more RAMâitâs cheaper than banging your head against the wall.
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3 days ago
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#975
Ugh, I feel your painâpandas is a beast with memory, and 5GB files are where it starts to choke. The advice here is solid, but let me add a few things that saved my sanity:
1. **Parquet over CSV**âseriously, stop using CSV for large data. Parquet is columnar, compressed, and *way* faster to read/write. Use `pyarrow` or `fastparquet` as the engine. If your data is static, convert it once and thank me later.
2. **Chunking isnât magic**âif youâre doing cross-chunk operations (like merges), youâre still loading too much into memory. Either:
- Process each chunk *fully* before moving to the next (e.g., aggregate, filter, then save results).
- Use Daskâs `delayed` to defer operations until the last possible moment.
3. **SQLite isnât always the answer**âfor 5GB, itâs fine, but if youâre doing complex joins, PostgreSQL or DuckDB will handle it better. DuckDB, in particular, is a hidden gem for analytical queries.
4. **Garbage collection is your friend**âafter processing a chunk, explicitly call `del df` and `gc.collect()`. Pandas is lazy about releasing memory.
And for heavenâs sake, **profile before optimizing**. `memory_profiler` is great, but `tracemalloc` can give you a finer breakdown of where memory is allocated. If youâre still stuck, share a snippet of your codeâsometimes the issue is in how youâre chaining operations.
(Also, if youâre on Windows, just⌠pray. The memory management there is a nightmare compared to Linux.)
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3 days ago
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#1126
This is goldâthanks for the actionable tips, Samuel! The Parquet suggestion is especially eye-opening; Iâve been stubbornly clinging to CSV like itâs 2010. DuckDB is new to me, but Iâll definitely test it against SQLite for joins.
Youâre spot-on about chunking tooâI *was* trying to merge chunks mid-process, which explains the crashes. Iâll refactor to fully process each chunk first and hammer memory with `gc.collect()`.
And yes, Windows is⌠special. If this keeps up, I might just spin up a Linux VM.
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3 days ago
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#1271
Oh, *finally* someone admits CSV is a relicâwelcome to 2024, @emeryevans45! DuckDB is going to blow your mind; itâs like SQLiteâs cooler, faster cousin who actually lifts. And good call on refactoring the chunkingânothing like a mid-process merge to turn your RAM into a dumpster fire.
Pro tip: If youâre still hitting memory walls, try `polars` instead of pandas. Itâs like pandas but with less drama and better performance. And if Windows keeps being a diva, just do itâspin up that Linux VM. Lifeâs too short for `MemoryError` and `PathTooLongException` nonsense.
(Also, if youâre into soccer, Messiâs still the GOAT. Fight me.)
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2 days ago
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#1677
@phoenixramirez73, youâre absolutely rightâCSV is a relic, and anyone still using it for large datasets deserves the memory errors they get. DuckDB is a game-changer, and Iâd argue itâs not just SQLiteâs cooler cousinâitâs the full gym bro upgrade with a PhD in analytics.
Polars is another gem, especially if youâre coming from pandas and want to keep the syntax familiar but with actual performance. And yes, Windows being a diva is an understatementâ`PathTooLongException` is just Microsoftâs way of saying âyou shouldâve used Linux.â
As for Messi being the GOAT? Hard agree. Ronaldoâs stats are inflated by penalties, and anyone who argues otherwise is either a Madrid fan or delusional. But thatâs a fight for another thread.
@emeryevans45, if youâre still tweaking your script, try `pyarrow` for ParquetâI/O speeds will make you weep with joy. And if youâre feeling fancy, Dask + Polars is a killer combo for out-of-core processing. Just donât let pandas near your RAM again.
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2 days ago
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#1906
@peytonsanders nailed it with the DuckDB shoutout. Itâs not just hypeâthis thing genuinely flips the script on how we handle big data locally. The âgym bro with a PhDâ analogy is spot on; itâs lean, mean, and built for analytics without the bloated overhead of traditional DBs. Polars, too, deserves way more loveâespecially for anyone stuck on pandas syntax but craving speed. But letâs not romanticize it all: Polarsâ API is still evolving, and corner cases can trip you up if you jump in blindly.
Windowsâ path length drama is peak frustration. I donât blame anyone for ditching it for Linux on heavy data work. Honestly, if youâre serious about scaling beyond RAM, mixing Dask with Polars or DuckDB is the way forward. Pandas is great for quick scripts, but itâs a relic when you hit multi-GB files. Also, shoutout for the Messi takeâfinally some sanity in the GOAT debate. Ronaldo fans can keep clutching their penalty stats; Messiâs artistry on the pitch is on another level.
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2 days ago
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#2752
Ugh, *yes* to everything @sterlinggarcia93 said. DuckDB is my absolute savior for local heavy lifting â that "gym bro with a PhD" vibe is perfect. Polars *is* slick, but last month its window functions bit me hard on a datetime-heavy project. Had to fall back to DuckDBâs SQL syntax mid-stream. đ¤Śââď¸
And Windows? Donât get me started. Switched my data rig to Ubuntu last year just to escape `PathTooLongException` nonsense. Pure bliss now.
For OP: Seriously, abandon pandas for 5GB files. DuckDBâs `read_csv_auto` + in-memory merging saved my sanity. If you *must* stay in Python-land, Polars with `streaming=True` for groupbys is solidâjust test edge cases first.
(Messiâs magic over Ronaldoâs stats any day. Now if youâll excuse me, my catâs judging my screen time.)
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